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Healthy Religion?

Can following Jesus Christ affect my physical health? Is there a connection between physical health and spirituality? Check out this episode as we explore these questions and more with health expert and Christian, Thomas Hadley.

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Hello and welcome to the OC Relevant Podcast.

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My name is Marcel Hall.

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Want to thank you for listening.

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What we do here on the OC relevant is have short interview devotionals on

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topics that are relevant to us all.

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We have different speakers highlight how God's principles and ways

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can impact all aspects of life.

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And today I'm excited to have Thomas Hadley here with us.

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First off, Thomas, thank you for joining the program.

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Can you go ahead and share a little bit about yourself..

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Yeah.

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Thank you for having me on here, Marcel.

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yeah, as you said, my name is, uh, Thomas Hadley.

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I live in Irvine, here with my wife Ari, uh, of 23 years.

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I have two children, Lois, who is age 15 in Edison, who's 11, been

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a member here at Orange County for about 28 years, and I'm the found

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the founder of, uh, lifestyle Weight Loss Systems to help people put their

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weight loss and weight management on a.

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Through just sustainable life habits.

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Awesome.

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, and those who are listening, you can't see, but Thomas is in shape.

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All right.

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That brother is definitely in shape, looking good.

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So here, let me ask you a question.

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So is there a connection between physical health and spirituality?

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Short answer, absolutely.

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Um, I mean, since, since I specialize in weight, I'll focus mainly on

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weight loss and weight management as it relates to this connection

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and as a disciple of Jesus.

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I'll, I'll, I'll speak on the spirituality in terms of following

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him and walking with him daily.

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Um, so I mean, we've all experienced breakdown and self-control, our eating,

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lack of motivation exercise after having a discouraging conversation

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or conflict with someone or just having a challenge a day at.

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We're at home, um, and we, instead of turning to God, we could turn to food.

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We could turn to laziness.

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Um, the other night I was up late doing some work on a

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website, having some problems.

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And man, I tell you, those pork runs and the kitchen started to sound real good.

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I knew it was wrong, , so I said, you know what?

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I need to turn to God.

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I turned to God, prayed about my specific situ.

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I fixed the problem, the website problem, and I maintain my self-control.

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So we definitely need to be walking with Jesus.

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Uh, and that's just kind of a practical way.

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Um, and I think, um, I mean, we also know what it, what it feels like, uh, to

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have been filled with the Holy Spirit, uh, filled with the fruits of the

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spirit after having a great quiet time.

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Um, we're motivated, self-controlled, excited about the.

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And that's stuff that leads to healthy, healthy behaviors,

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uh, following that time.

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Now, maybe after, if you have your quiet time at 6:00 AM at about 10 30, it's

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gonna start to struggle a little bit.

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But hey man, that's, that's where walking with Jesus comes in, uh, on a daily basis

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and walk with him throughout the day.

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Um, so I mean, we've all experienced that connection between the

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physical health and spirituality.

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On a practical level, and I'll say this, I mean, I've been in

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the fitness industry for a long.

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My mom got, me and my brother started, got our whole family in into just exercising

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very early, maybe five years old.

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I started training seriously when I was 11.

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Um, I started studying exercise science when I was 12.

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I was a state champion weightlifter at 18.

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I started my first fitness business when in 2006 I was in Marine Corps.

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I have all this experience and knowledge, but man, that stuff is nothing.

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Without the power of God, I will still go to seven.

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And get them, uh, Twinkies, a candy bar I know I should get when I'm stressed out.

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And so I say that to say that the most important thing is

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abiding in Christ, abiding in him.

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And what I mean is it's simple prayer and being in his word.

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There's a lot of podcasts and I'm grateful to do this podcast.

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It's a lot of YouTube videos, but there is nothing like the power of.

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We really gotta stick with that no matter what your experience or background is.

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And my favorite passage with all this stuff when it comes to living a healthy

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life and what best descri best describes, uh, my experience and what I've seen in

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others is John 15 versus four and five remain in me, cuz I also remain in you.

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No branch can bear fruit by itself.

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It must remain in the vine.

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Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain.

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I am the vine, you are the branches.

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If you're man and me, and I am you, you'll bear much fruit apart from me.

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You could do nothing.

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We're all gonna bear fruit every day.

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It could be good fruit, it could be bad fruit.

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That's gonna determine where we're rooted, and it starts with Christ

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starting that day out, having a quiet time, and just being consistent in the

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morning and then throughout the day, and I'll get more into that later.

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That's great.

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So can you elaborate some more and help us out?

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Can you share how your physical health affects your faith and

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your walk with God and vice versa?

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I mean, a walk with God, it, it, it definitely affects our physical health.

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Um, I mean, when we're close to him, I mean, think about it, you have

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kids, you have a wife, you're close to God, you're a lot less stressed out.

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You're more in control in a good.

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You're more calm, you're more peaceful, you're more loving.

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Obviously, all those things are gonna contribute to health.

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Um, and we know that we just have more energy and we're closer to God.

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It, it, it affects us physically.

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It affects us mentally, emotionally, we think more clearly.

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We're in, uh, in traffic.

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Road rage will not be a thing.

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We're close to God and it's not gonna be jacking up our, our blood pressure

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and increasing these cortisol levels and, and messing up our thinking.

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So we know it's gonna affect us in that way.

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And honestly, when we're sitting, it just makes us tired.

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, you're trying to cover your tracks.

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Uh, just doing things you shouldn't be.

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I mean, we were designed by nature to live a certain way

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and we go against that design.

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Bad things happen in our.

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It's God's way of letting us know, hey, you need the course correct.

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Um, now I will say this cause I do get criticized for this one.

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I'm not saying that walking with God does not mean you're going to get sick.

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We're gonna get sick.

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I mean, Paul told Timothy, Hey, stop drinking only water.

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Drink a little wine because of your frequent illnesses.

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So Timothy was spiritual, but he got sick.

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So I'm not saying.

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If you're more spiritual, you're not gonna be sick.

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Now, I will say with conviction that you'll get sick less, you'll be healthier

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cuz you're living according to design.

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I mean, re Deuteronomy, he tells us that the nations who are not following me, they

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will have diseases that you will not get.

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And so it's just a, just a, a natural principle, not as, not only spiritual.

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Um, so you will get sick, but the fruit of the spirit, there

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are many websites as you can.

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And you go, go through each one.

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Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness.

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Just go through it and you'll see where the fruits of the spirit do actually

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contribute, uh, to greater health.

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And I, I, I looked at a few of these.

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You go to, um, love for example, just Google it, how love impacts your Weight.

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One study.

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This is uh, harvard.edu.

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One study examines.

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309,000 people found that a lack of strong relationships increases the risk

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of premature death from all causes by 50%.

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Not having a loving relationships early death.

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That doesn't sound very good to me.

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Joy again, harvard.edu scientific evidence suggests that positive emotions

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can help you live longer and healthier.

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Kinda the same thing.

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Now you think about peace, this thing in terms.

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What's the opposite of peace?

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In my mind, that would be stress, right?

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Um, you go to Mayo Clinic, they say long-term activation of the stress

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response system and the over-exposure to cortisol and other stress

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hormones that follows, can disrupt almost all your body's processes.

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This put you at risk, increased risk for many health problems,

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including anxiety, depress.

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Digestive problems, headaches, muscle tension and pain, heart disease,

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sleep problems, weight gain, memory and concentration impairment.

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So sometimes anxiety and depression.

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Not always, but sometimes it can be the result of sin.

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It can be the result of worry and, and not letting that stuff go.

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That's peaced patience.

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Well, how does patients improve our health?

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Well, practicing patients will help you dissipate stress and give

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you a choice about how to respond to disappointment and frustra.

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That's Psychology Today.

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Patients can keep us from a lot of problems.

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If I can just be patient and calm and wait to respond, I could be a lot

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better off in parenting sometimes.

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Kindness.

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Again, Mayo Clinic can decrease blood pressure and cortisol,

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a stress hormone, which direct directly impacts stress levels.

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People who give themselves a balance, give themselves in a balanced way, also

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tend to be healthier and live longer.

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And of course, we don't really need to think about this one.

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We don't need scientific evidence to see how self-control impacts our health.

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I mean, come on, . Think about last time you're at a dinner

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table and just gave too much.

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I mean, my wife is a great cook.

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Like I'll go into dinnertime with a plan like, Hey, I'm gonna eat this, this, this.

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I got my meal prep ready to go, and she comes out.

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Meatloaf for some, uh, you know what, I'm gonna put my, my meal prepp to the side.

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Put that in the fridge for tomorrow.

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meat, this meatloaf, it's healthy.

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But see, I can go, I can eat too much sometimes I lack self-control.

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So my point is that the Holy Spirit, the fruits of the spirit will positively

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impact your health, um, very clearly.

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And I'd say also, I mean, the other thing we gotta think about

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too, Is that the scriptures directly tell us how to be healthy.

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Sometimes go through the proverbs, like I'm constantly studying health.

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Just about every day I'll read something about health.

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And the proverbs is so full of things that tell you how to be

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healthy, how to extend your life.

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So it's not a health and wealth gospel.

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It's just straight facts from the Bible now.

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So I mean, how our physical health helps us in our walk with.

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I mean, the most important thing is to love, love the Lord and your God with

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all your heart, soul, mind, and strength.

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It's easier to connect with God.

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I'm not sure what it was that I had about nine months ago.

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Man, COVID.

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I don't know what it was, but I was out.

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I mean, I could not connect with God.

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It was just so hard to pray.

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It definitely could read my Bible, so I just couldn't connect with God.

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So it's very hard for me to love him from that position.

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Not that you.

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It's just, it makes it easier to connect with him, uh, when it comes to serving.

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If, if we are healthier, if we're physically fit, we're able to help

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people out, we could serve people.

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And honestly, that's one less thing we're thinking about.

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Like when we're sharing our faith, we don't wanna be thinking, okay, here I

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was sitting in this restaurant eating all this unhealthy food, eating way too much.

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Now I'm gonna share the waitress . Uh, maybe not.

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Or maybe we're just not taking care of ourselves physically.

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The world looks at the outward appearance, man, we need to make the gospel

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attractive, uh, make the teaching about God our savior attractive and Titus.

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And so it does help, it does help us to feel more confident

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when we're sharing our faith.

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It helps us to be, to feel confident when we're, uh, just serving other people.

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Um, I had a neighbor who had this like 250 pound rock.

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She needed moved in her front yard and I just happened to be parking my car.

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She said, oh man, this thing is.

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You said you could spend a few minutes to help me with this.

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And it was a struggle, , it was a real struggle.

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And I'm fit.

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I, I train a lot, but it, it really pushed me to the limits.

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But she was so thankful.

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It just changed our relationship.

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So when we take care of ourselves, it helps us to, to, to care

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of the two greatest commands.

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Love God, and, and love our neighbor.

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And honestly, when, what our, when we're more fit physically, um, more

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healthy, we can concentrate better when we're studying the word of.

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Our mind needs to be in a healthy place.

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So we could study, really dig into the scriptures, be the, and not

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just skip by with a five, 10 minute quiet time, but just have the, the

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mental endurance and stamina to sit there and study and dig deep.

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So there's just a, there's just a few ways that those things are interrelated.

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That's, , very insightful, to hear the connection between, , the fruits

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of the spirit and the modern day.

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And the connection between our physical and even our emotional and mental health.

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So now , let me ask you this, help us to discern how to navigate the waters of body

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positivity and being in shape and healthy

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. Cuz sometimes people can, , interpret

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Or misinterpret maybe what , the true message of body positivity is.

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So what are some realistic expectations we should have?

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Yeah, that's a great question.

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The whole body positivity movement from understanding is, is talking about just

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accepting your body for whatever it is.

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And a lot of time, what that means from what I'm seeing is the acceptance.

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Obesity and that can be a problem.

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God has all, God has given all of us a certain lot in life.

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We all have a body on alone.

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It's not our body.

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, first of all, uh, don't believe me.

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Go visit graveyard, graveyards or a lot of bodies in a parking lot.

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Uh, the soul has moved on.

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So we gotta understand that our body doesn't belong to us and that the other

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part is that we're gonna get a new body.

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We get to heaven.

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Sometimes the, there's this worship of the body, like, I

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gotta have this perfect body.

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Never, it's never gonna be perfect.

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So don't even worry about that.

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But what we can think about is focus biblically, what are

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the biblical principles here?

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Be self-controlled.

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Just, I mean, that's one of the biggest ones.

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Just have self-control and live in a way that's is not

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debaucherous, . Um, be hardworking.

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Don't be lazy.

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Um, have a healthy mind.

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Um, much of your ability spend time in God's word.

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When we do the things, when we live according to God's principles, a

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certain outcome is going to happen.

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You may be 150 pounds after that, you may be two 50.

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I don't know.

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You may have a health disorder that no matter what you do, you're gonna be heavy,

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but that is different than, so, okay, well I have no, he, no health disorder

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that's causing my o obesity or my my weight challenge, but I'm just, I'm gonna

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live how I wanna live and God accepts me.

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But we're not repenting of, of sin.

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So live according to the principles and whatever God gives you.

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Be grateful for that.

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Cause we're not all gonna have, you know, a muscular body or whatever

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you, whatever the media says today, but don't accept the idea that I can

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just accept being a certain way when the certain way is the result of sin.

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Gotta repent to that.

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So what I hear you saying is there's a difference between accepting a particular

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body type that you have, and then there's the, um, uh, uh, results or effects

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or consequences maybe of poor choices, whether it be in our health or obviously

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in when it comes to the principles of God.

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Am I, am I, am I hearing that?

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You are absolutely right.

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There was a quote, I think it was James Allen.

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He says, we, we re, we rebel against the effects, but we ex, we, we rebel against

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the effects, but we indulge in the cause, . So whatever the, we gotta focus on what we

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put in our body and how we use our body.

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And then whatever the outcome is, hey, we did the best we could with it.

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So that's helpful to hear.

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Because we can go to two extremes it seems like with this, right?

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Yeah.

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, where we can just accept things but not really see the core issue

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of maybe poor choices, right?

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Or we can go to the other extreme and feel like, man, I have to look

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like, Dwayne the Rock Johnson.

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Or, you name it, Jillian Michaels or something like that.

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We could go to either extremes and therefore feel insecure maybe, or

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feel like a failure, or we can go to the other extreme and I'm just

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accepting anything and missing the God component , and that's maybe a

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little more in the middle or healthier.

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Is that also kind of what.

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You're, , saying to us

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precisely one, okay, I need to look like Dwayne The

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Rock Johnson or Gillian Michaels.

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One could be idolatry.

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It's like just idolizing the body and being vain, and the

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other is just being lazy.

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Either one is taking the focus off of God.

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The focus needs to always be on God.

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And that's why I said that staying in the vine, that's the.

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We're gonna all struggle in different ways.

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So it's that daily and honestly, hourly walk with God that

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keeps us on the right path.

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We are all going to stray one end or the other.

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Well, that's helpful to hear, , because if I had to look

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like Dwayne Rock Johnson to be godly, man, I'm in trouble, man.

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so thank you for, for clearing that up for me and, , but also not giving

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me excuse here to just, uh, eat, eat pizza and, and, and Cheetos and, and

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Fritos and cheese fries, every day.

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And thank That's okay.

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So , I appreciate that wisdom

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. Thomas: One thing I will say, and I'm

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all the time, Dwayne the Rock Johnson.

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I watched an interview, he says, I look at my body, or I look at food as fuel.

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My dad taught me that food is fuel.

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And I've thought that way at times.

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But the more I, the more I evolve as a disciple, the more I learn by God.

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God wants us to enjoy life, man.

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He really wants us to enjoy.

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I mean, look at the Old Testament.

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I mean he, I mean good food.

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I mean r Ecclesiastes Food, wine.

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He even tells them to celebrate what sweet.

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I mean, he's all about good food and celebrating and having fun.

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So I want people to understand that it doesn't mean you are living

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this, this strict life all the time.

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So enjoy, enjoy, but just do it in a godly way.

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That's helpful.

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No, we appreciate that.

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, so then maybe give us some practical tips here.

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So what are some things then that we can do to maintain or

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improve our overall health?

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Yeah.

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The first thing I would say is just pray to God for him to

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give you a vision for your life.

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Because our body is here for a purpose.

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And when we have a vision for our life, then that helps us

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determine what our goal should be.

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, I had, uh, uh, one, uh, person say to me, Hey, I want a six pack.

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I said, well, how does that fit into your life vision, and.

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I don't wanna give him away.

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We all know who he is.

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So I won't say anything about who it is, , but I, I said, well,

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how does that fit into your, your vision as an disciple your mission?

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Say, honestly, it really doesn't.

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I said, just take that off the list, then.

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It doesn't, it doesn't have any impact on you.

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So pray that God would give you a vision that's in alignment with where he has

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you going to your life, your eternity.

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So that's number one.

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Uh, the second thing I say is just pray for God to help you to be.

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It seemed like such a no-brainer, but it isn't.

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I run a, a, an online weight loss course called Journey Jumpstart, and one of

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the course, one of the course lessons is one of the parts in it is I tell

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people to pray for your weight loss goal.

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And just about every time people say, I've never actually prayed

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about my weight loss goal.

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Yeah, you should, and he will help you because he will remove roadblock.

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And obstacles that are coming your way.

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Like I've had times where I've tried really hard to, to, to get myself in

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better shape and oh man, one family birthday party after another, uh,

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a potluck, uh, Costco pizza night.

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I mean, all these different things are coming my way and I, I just give in.

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But when I start really praying about it, I start seeing those things go.

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And not only that, he'll also, he also gives us strength to overcome

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those obstacles when they do come.

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So just don't underestimate the power of just asking God for help.

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That's number two.

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Number three, just stay in God's word.

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Read, study, meditate, and memorize.

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The word of God is that is your armor.

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Just the other night, like I said, I was up late and my biggest threat

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for healthy eating is stay up late.

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There's something demons come out or something that, that, that, that tempt me.

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And I was up late and I started to say, you know what?

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Forget this.

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I think I'm gonna go to the kitchen and grab some of them

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chips and just enjoy a little bit.

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And I thought, wait a minute.

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I'm, I gotta do that.

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And now I have a list of, of 26 scriptures that I have either the

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full thing memorized or at least the, the, um, book chapter in verse and.

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First Corinthians 9 27.

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I beat my body and make it my slave.

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I just recited that passage and that struggle wasn't gone,

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like completely gone yesterday.

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I had some challenges going on with work.

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I was supposed to work out at a certain time.

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Uh, something happened right before I was supposed to start and I couldn't get my

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workout in, so it kind of messed me up.

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I thought, you know what?

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I'm gonna beat my body and make it my slave.

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I will get this done.

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So God's word is powerful.

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We have to use God's.

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Read, study, meditate, memorize number four.

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Uh, set specific health goals.

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It can be simple as, Hey, I wanna lose 10 pounds, or it can be an action goal.

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I just wanna walk 10,000 steps a day.

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I want to make sure I drink eight cups of water.

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Whatever it is, I wanna make sure I have a salad with every meal.

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Action goals are really powerful because those action goals

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are what actually lead to the.

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But we also need the end result goal because that inspires us

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to know what actions to take.

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So you need both.

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Um, number five, create a plan and follow it.

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Just take the time out just to make a plan.

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I tell people that you could spend a lot less time taking

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action and get the results if you sit down and make a plan first.

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Instead of going to the gym for 30 minutes or an hour, take the.

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Spend that 30 minutes to an hour writing a plan for those goals and then follow it.

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Get some accountability.

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Uh, but most importantly, pray to God.

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Don't lean on accountability.

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Lean on God first, then accountability.

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And uh, and lastly, just a little plug for myself.

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Just download my free, uh, weight loss habits cheat sheet on

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lifestyle weight loss systems.com.

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And honestly, on that, that sheet, it all seriousness, it's a list of habits

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that when you follow them, It will help you to just be healthy overall.

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It covers mindset, habits, lifestyle habits, nutrition

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habits and exercise habits.

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Download that and just stick it on your fridge and just following that

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alone can be very helpful to you.

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So free, just download that.

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Wow.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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That's good stuff.

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, I'm inspired and, , feel enlightened and encouraged, , by what you shared.

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Maybe you could share real briefly again, what was that website?

Thomas:

It's lifestyle weight loss systems.com.

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Well, thank you again, Thomas.

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We are so grateful for you taking the time out and.

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All of this good information and insight, , for us, and we wanna thank all of you

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for listening to our OC relevant podcast.

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Thanks and remember, the gospel is relevant to us all.

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The OC Church of Christ podcast centers on relevant topics for you and me. Listen to a variety of speakers share how God and His word speak to all generations about topics that matter.

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